Can an Atheist argue someone out of faith?

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It's just something I've long wondered about the "burden of proof" stance, though I do agree with the basic premise that everyone will tend to believe what they believe until there is a significant reason to change their mind.

I also agree that everyone will believe what they believe until there is a reason to change, the problem today is people don't want to change their mind, and people do not strive to find the answers. Even if evidence is over-whelming, they refuse to be wrong, and it only enforces their beliefs more. I have had many conversations with people of faith, and the conversations usually end badly, after I refute their points, and leave them with nothing but "faith" thats all they have.

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I try not to argue people out of faith. No one likes being forced into a belief, or being proved wrong so the best course of action is to ask them to do the research themselves.
I was never very religious but there was a point in my life I believed in God and Jesus. Everyone talked about it, friends prayed, prayed before dinner, went to church, I figured that was just life. I remember praying sometimes before bed.

I think the main turning point for me was taking an interest in science. The class I would say that effected me most would be physics. Once you understand physics the whole world starts to make a whole lot of sense. Reduce the world down to its smallest form and things become clear in all aspects of life!
Say you pray to yourself at night... how are your brain thoughts being expelled out of your body for a "super natural" being to hear. Thoughts can not travel through a medium like air, thoughts really have no physical way to be transferred at all. You could say it is supernatural so anything is possible, but then you are just kidding yourself. And it seems like once you understand the science of the world, religion seems so silly! Science makes sense and it proves its self everyday. I bet you that the sun will keep rising everyday for a long while to come, and we know this through testable science. Its facts.

So my advice to any religious people who are confused. Pick up a physics book, cellular biology book, or astronomy book, and read away. When did you get your first bible? When did you get your first science book? I think the world is backwards.

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That's what I've been saying that christians only have faith and that is all that is required of us as long as that faith is about Christ. Christians see faith as proof as long as it is an honest faith.

@ Tiberius if the Jewish people and christians were making up their religions then why is it we would include satan, it would be much easier without him. Why after these thousands of years would we not have developed answers to questions like why does God allow bad things to happen to good people and ect. I know we have answers to a lot of questions like this but these answers basicly find no acceptance from nonbelivers and if we were just looking to control people as many of you have said, then don't you think we would have come up with more acceptable answers to draw nonbelievers in. As I said above faith is all we have and as long as we are honest in our faith we have something greater than proof. This is what Jesus told Thomas.

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