RE: Can an Atheist argue someone out of faith?
November 6, 2010 at 4:51 am
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2010 at 4:52 am by Captain Scarlet.)
(November 5, 2010 at 10:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Tiberius if the Jewish people and christians were making up their religions then why is it we would include satan, it would be much easier without him. Why after these thousands of years would we not have developed answers to questions like why does God allow bad things to happen to good people and ect. I know we have answers to a lot of questions like this but these answers basicly find no acceptance from nonbelivers and if we were just looking to control people as many of you have said, then don't you think we would have come up with more acceptable answers to draw nonbelievers in. As I said above faith is all we have and as long as we are honest in our faith we have something greater than proof. This is what Jesus told Thomas.The Satan question rather answers itself. Something has to be invented in Christianity to mask the problem of evil so you can attribute bad things to Satan and good things to God. As for the Jews they didn't care too much for the problem of evil, their god used the satan character as a pawn; asking satan to do his own evil for him apart from when he was feeling capricious that is eg Lot.
Faith is greater than proof is it? Do you apply this to medical science, civil engineering, pharmaceuticals, food industry, construction, national electricity grids, maybe your drive to work in the morning? Where exactly do you apply this maxim, apart from in your church or the privacy of your own home? My guess nowhere and that you take sick kids to hospitals not to faith healers, you take aspirins and don't use crystals, you switch lights on in your home you don't pray for the lights to come on, you trust to the qualities of suspension bridges and don't drive over cliffs hoping winged angels will hold up your car as you believe in the right god and the 1000s of others both dead and alive are wrong. Your faith argument belies the extreme weakness of your position and the intellectual price you have to pay to believe in something like a god, gods, man-gods or whatever.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.