(November 7, 2010 at 1:04 am)chatpilot Wrote: Godschild wrote:God did not impose the curse of sin on man, He allowed it to come into place just as He said it would, He said do not eat the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden for if you do you shall surely die. They did and in more than a physical death.
Another clear example of Christians cherry picking and denying what their so called holy book so obviously states. I pointed out that God imposed the curse upon humanity and you throw the blame on Adam and Eve. Now remember your bible states that they had no knowledge of good or evil so tell me my good Christian, how were they to know that eating of the tree was a bad thing? Of course God told them not to but they were like children in the sense that they had not been corrupted by "sin". It's like telling your child not too eat too many chocolate bars or he might have a tummy ache, but guess what? As soon as you turn around that is the first thing that a child would do.
Also, they were tricked into it by the serpent whom God never told them nothing about. They could not resist the serpents temptation even if they wanted to, because of their state of innocence. They were tricked into believing what the serpent had told them although it contradicted the command that they had received by God. It's like giving a toddler a fork to play with in a room full of sockets. God had obviously set them up for failure! That son of a bitch
Min wrote: Xtians always see things ass-backwards. Comes with the territory.
I've been saying this for years Min
Where is your proof that they were child like, you are making this up so you can establish your point as truth. You see they knew the consequinces of disobedence and understood, why else would Eve had told the serpent that if they were to eat of the tree they would die. You have no idea of the intellegence God gave them, by the way why would God want to set Adam and Eve up to fail. He created them to have a relationship with them that was pure not corrupt, to set them up to fail would only ruin their perfect relationship and seperate them. By your reasoning God might as well had never created mankind.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.