RE: Statler Waldorf - Raising from the dead.
November 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(November 7, 2010 at 10:45 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1- So shouldn't you allow all data or at least all data relevant to the subject?1. That depends on the data. False, contaminated, or other kinds of data may have many reasons to be unusable.
2- God is not only immaterial, he's a personal God. I can list at least 30 prayers of mine that he's answered with more than a "no" or a "wait". Your scientific experimental qualifiers are trying to objectively prove something not only immaterial, but subjective. I guess that leaves us with differing perspectives and an agreement to disagree because you have lack of revelation subjectively. My experiences can't prove anything to anyone but me, but that doesn't mean that they're by default delusion, rationalizations or prove nothing. I guess you just have to take a look and see if you're really not offhandedly dismissing not only relevant but proper evidence based on the subject of proof.
2. The arguement of "I'm the only one that sees/hears things so it's a personal experience" is an excellent arguement for 'I'm delusional". I think the only reason you see otherwise is because your delusions coincide with your belief system and not something more ridiculous - like butt-probing alien abduction (which victims of that would attest, with full conviction, actually happened them.)
Either way, 'personal experience' is not proof of anything- regardless of whether or not any of it actually happened.
The reason that answered prayers are more certainly delusional is because all prayers are indistinguishable from non-prayers - in other words, praying gives no greater chance of anything happening than random chance.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
