are you left,right or centre?

[bozo]

Where do you live?
At least you concede that capitalism isn't perfect.....quite an understatement I'd say. You don't criticise people for seeking something better do you?
You assume that what is happening in south america will fail....why do you not rejoice that countries are seeking to build the socialist alternative to capitalism?
I hope your last point is realised. I hope something better replaces capitalism eventually. I know of no other viable system than socialism at this moment in time.

I live in Israel.
Does this help you in the debate over the ideal social system?
I think -not a bit.
Now ,I would say as a paraphrase that utopia dreamer never die they only change.
The modern democratic capitalism has without any doubt good things
as well as bad things.
Do you know any thing except God the allmighty which is only good and not a bit bad? I don't.
The history of mankind has it's way and so if we look at the dreamers of the 19-th century we see that they succeeded finaly in giving birth to the communist system which begun with the Soviet Union and then spread to a great deal of other countries.
Their basic doctrine was laid out by Marx and put in practice by the leaders of the Soviet Union,by Maotzetung in China and by others.
Living for many years in a communist country before I immigrated to Israel made me know this system from inside with all it's advantages and disadvantages.
There were a lot of advantages as for instance free of charge education,free of charge healthcare,practical inexistence of unemployment ,low prices for cultural elements (books,cinema ,theatre ,et cetera) as for sports.
But all these advantages were reduced by the existence of a dictatorial
political system based on a secret police which watched over every citizen.One mass media led by the communist party had the role to praise daily the achievements of the system, to denigrate the "imperialistic american " social system and to menace people who would dare to criticize communism.
The terror which brought to the death of millions in the Soviet Union and in China was in the late 50-th of the 20-th century replaced by an economic terror which held the system together till it collapsed all of a sudden.
People who were born in a free country will never be able to understand what it means to live in a dictatorial country.
True that in the States afro-americans have suffered much from racism
but as we see now there is a historical process of gradual disparition of
racism.
Now,does anybody dream to revive the communist system? May be some, but very few and not people who have lived there.
One could say O.K.we would like a socialist system, not a dictatorial one but a democratic one.The problem is that the idea is not such new as it seems but was tried in the 20-th century by some utopic politicians and they all failed totally.
You can be enthusiastic about Chavez but he is already on the path of
considering himself as a kind of a social genius,a new Fidel, who begun in the same way and ended up in making miserable his people for so many years.
As I said ,may be that in the near future we will have a new Marx who will be able to find a better way between the two sysems of capitalism and communism,but what we see up to day is far from being just that.

I asked about your homeland because you said you had lived under communism, so it was relevant.
Is your question a serious one about " God the almighty " ? This is an atheist forum!
I am not advocating communism as it was in the USSR or China, I am saying we learn from the mistakes that were made and continue to campaign for pure socialism. What I will say is that gangster capitalism which replaced communism in the USSR is hardly a model for the future and very many Russians would have the soviet back tomorrow if it were possible.
Similarly, many former east-germans would have the wall back tomorrow following their experience of being " auslander " in unified Germany.
We have to continue building socialism because capitalism will end one day and what follows it is the big question for a better world for us all, especially the underclass.