(September 7, 2015 at 11:12 pm)thehedglin Wrote:(September 7, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well obviously when someone is about to do something illegal or hurt themselves, or hurt another person, that's completely different than badgering someone because they do or don't believe in God.
True, but we certainly don't want them treating others how they want to be treated, either.
I think respect is a bit more and less complicated than that, people have the right to have their autonomy respected, but that doesn't mean I HAVE to respect what they choose to do with it. People have the RIGHT to believe in a flat earth, out of respect for their mental autonomy, but that doesn't mean I should have to treat it as a legitimate belief. I may not openly mock them without reason, out of a sense of courtesy, but that does not mean that I respect their opinion. I also don't mock a person who has a belief until they feel it necessary to tell me about it, and at that point, it was they who instigated the discussion.
Lol, once again, I never said you have to treat things as "legitimate" beliefs. Obviously, if you don't believe them, you don't have to pretend like you do. But you don't have to be rude to the people who hold the beliefs you don't agree with. You don't have to mock them about it, or keep badgering them about it, or not leave them alone about it. Just like you don't like it when theists do it to you, so then don't do it to others. Not sure why that is so controversial all of a sudden. Another poster here gave a couple good examples of times they respected other's beliefs, and that's pretty much what I meant.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh