RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 8, 2015 at 3:57 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(September 6, 2015 at 1:01 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: "My answer to your hypothetical is that I refuse to consider your hypothetical." How droll.But, again the best anyone could ever do is point to one understanding, or interpretation of Christ and say their is no evidence to substantiate this particular belief. What you seem to fail to grasp is that God is the sole reason for my belief. Not one religious interpretation or another. Meaning I do not rely on what one 'scholar' may say over what another may work to prove. God is my proof. I am not a lemming, I do not follow the crowd simply because the crowd is going in one direction or another. I have sought truth for a very long time and I have found it, and no one will ever be able to take that from me.
The hypothetical situation is that, for whatever reason, you have been successfully convinced that Jesus did not exist. That's the hypothetical. Whatever hypothetical evidence it would take, that's what you have. What that evidence actually entails is completely irrelevant to the situation because we're not asking what would convince you. We're wanting to know about you would do if you were hypothetically convinced, and your only response is to demand to know how you were hypothetically convinced. All you're doing is dodging the question by refusing to even remotely entertain the presented hypothesis.
Ok, so now what you seem to be saying is that regardless of what hypothetical evidence is being put forward and what it says about Jesus, your "personal experience" with Gaud would lead you to ignore that evidence entirely. Interesting...
I'm sure you've been told that personal revelation/"experience" (read: imaginings) are not actual evidence, and I'm pretty confident you can't be convinced of the veracity of that fact, so I'm not really sure what else to say here. What you're basically saying is that even if you were hypothetically convinced, you still wouldn't be convinced, so you can't imagine what you'd do. Such a copout.
Try this: what would you do if there were enough written, historical evidence to confirm that the human version of Jesus was definitely based on another, purely celestial version of the character who lived and died in the spirit realms, and that this version definitely predates the human story by at least a few decades (suggesting, at minimum, that the human-Jesus story is a complete work of fiction based on an earlier story with no human characters).
Would you ignore this earlier version and figure God must have just been giving them a preview of the human story? Would you realize that both characters are probably fictional? Would you abandon human Jesus and start worshiping the original version? Most importantly, would your morals change? If so, how?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com