RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 11, 2015 at 1:40 am
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2015 at 1:43 am by Mudhammam.)
(September 10, 2015 at 11:55 pm)CristW Wrote: The evidence against Plato/Socrates argument is the siege of Athens during the rule of Pericles. The morals and ethical religious teachings, among the ancient Greek "soul believers" were removed as soon as disease spread within the city during the siege.Oh wow. That is a brilliant argument. But Plato's notion of the soul - as a sort of an immortal, incorporeal essence of self-motion that retains an identity from body to body, despite loss of memory - is problematic without appealing to this absurd, nay, silly and invalid objection that the ability to degrade one's moral sense disproves the individual soul's participation in virtue, derived from the form of the Good... whatever that is Plato leaves an open question.
Point: If they believed in a "soul", and if virtues derive from a "soul", then the populace of the city would have kept being filled with virtue(s) rather than increasing in vice. They would have been calm and been tranquil and preservered during the siege because their religious teachings created virtues.
Conclusion: Virtues do not derive from the BELIEF OF A SOUL.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza