RE: Abortion is love
September 11, 2015 at 10:19 am
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2015 at 11:28 am by Kingpin.
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(September 10, 2015 at 6:21 am)robvalue Wrote: If you're part of a religion such as Christianity or Islam, then aborting your children before they are born (or killing them just after they are born) is the most loving thing you can do for them.
First of all, you eliminate the risk that they might end up in hell by failing to follow the rules correctly.
Second, they go straight to heaven without any of the pain or heartache this life brings. They begin infinite happiness right away.
And third, it's insurance against them picking the wrong religion.
Even if we pretend there is definitely a god, and it's definitely either Yahweh or Allah, that means every Christian and Muslim is taking a risk. If they don't kill their baby, it might not go to heaven by picking wrong. You may be in the wrong religion and it may copy you, or you may be in the right religion and it may stray to another.
By killing it, the God can't say it picked wrong, so must send it to heaven! Even if you've picked wrong, in which case you're going to hell regardless, you save your child the same fate.
The ultimate act of love! So how can you object, and why don't you do it? Is it because you're hedging your bets in case the whole thing is actually made up?
Hey Rob, I will step up to the plate and respond.
First off, having children is somewhat of a paradox. What I mean by this is that people do not NEED to have kids but WANT to have kids. It is a selfish desire to procreate. We are certainly at a point in our society where procreation is not necessary to species survival, in fact some would argue for sterilization in some countries, and indeed some countries do have laws to limit number of children, etc. So all in all people have children out of a personal desire. The reason I say it's a paradox is because of out this selfish desire, comes selfless love. Those who are parents here would most likely agree that after you have children, your entire life changes and your decisions/life choices center around your children. Some parents forego their dreams, aspirations, careers, etc all for their kids. It's about sacrifice. That is truly the most loving thing a parent can really do for the kids, is to sacrifice their own desires and put the kids needs first.
I understand your premises, but I think that would only apply to a fanatical form of religion to be honest. I encourage my children to discover what they want, be who they are and I will help them and answer any questions best I know how. I will give them guidelines to follow in my home, teach them respect and care for others, love and protect them like nothing else, and let them be their own person. Belief in God is a one on one personal thing that each person makes for themselves. I don't shy away from my belief when the kids ask me and if they choose not to believe, that would not change my love for them one iota.
You say there is so much pain and heartache, but is there not also love, wonder, amazement and joy? Pain and heartache is not all there is. I have experienced plenty of that in my life and very young, but overall life is an amazing joy to live.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.