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Abortion and Women's Rights
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Abortion and Women's Rights
It's claimed that the pro-life movement really exists because pro-lifers don't want women to be equals with men. Being anti-abortion in other words is one major way they can bolster traditional patriarchy. If that's the case, then why are so many pro-lifers women? From my experience, the most vocal (and annoying) pro-lifers are women. Are these women wanting to limit their own freedom? Are they wanting to be subservient to men? Why?
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(May 25, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: It's claimed that the pro-life movement really exists because pro-lifers don't want women to be equals with men. Being anti-abortion in other words is one major way they can bolster traditional patriarchy. If that's the case, then why are so many pro-lifers women? From my experience, the most vocal (and annoying) pro-lifers are women. Are these women wanting to limit their own freedom? Are they wanting to be subservient to men? Why?

Because they're likely Christians. They'd probably give up any basic freedom if they believed it pleased God, and they believe that abortion is explicitly condemned in the Bible. (Which it's not.)

Is The Bible Pro-Life?
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RE: Abortion and Women's Rights
(May 25, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: Are these women wanting to limit their own freedom? Are they wanting to be subservient to men? Why?

They are simply allowing their emotional subjectivity to get the best of them.
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RE: Abortion and Women's Rights
(May 25, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: It's claimed that the pro-life movement really exists because pro-lifers don't want women to be equals with men. Being anti-abortion in other words is one major way they can bolster traditional patriarchy. If that's the case, then why are so many pro-lifers women? From my experience, the most vocal (and annoying) pro-lifers are women. Are these women wanting to limit their own freedom? Are they wanting to be subservient to men? Why?

That claim probably isn't entirely true.
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I still haven't really worked out why Christians tend to be pro-life.

Do fetuses go to heaven? They don't believe in Jesus, but they are sinless?
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It would be interesting to see what the percentage of men pro-lifers next to women pro-lifers is.
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Quote:If that's the case, then why are so many pro-lifers women?

Religion.

It poisons everything, to quote Hitchens.
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(May 25, 2014 at 3:50 pm)FreeTony Wrote: I still haven't really worked out why Christians tend to be pro-life.

Do fetuses go to heaven? They don't believe in Jesus, but they are sinless?

I think it depends on your flavor of Christianity. I was told that unbaptised babies go to limbo.
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(May 25, 2014 at 3:50 pm)FreeTony Wrote: Do fetuses go to heaven? They don't believe in Jesus, but they are sinless?

They still have original sin, so they totally burn.
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RE: Abortion and Women's Rights
Fetuses (fetusi??) don't go to heaven or hell. They don't have souls till their first breath, so they are not marked by original sin. They are no more a person than a wad of hair, a severed limb, or fingernail clippings.

It's in the Bible. Really
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