(November 10, 2010 at 11:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: God saw the fall of Lucifer and Adam before they ever did.What has foresight got to do with realising a possible material world without suffering? He may of known at a point in time it would turn to shit after he realised paradise, but it still meant HE COULD AND DID realise it. Hence he can do it and suffering is not compatiable with the greater good and an all good being. The best you can argue to is that the being that did this was capricious at best or evil at worst.
Early christians recognised this and the marcianites tried to develop a new theology based purely on Jesus' teachings effectively saying the OT was the work of a lesser god. They maybe had a point, becuase you now have to twist and turn and airbrush out the bad bits and capitalise the good bits.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.