(September 14, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Losty Wrote:(September 14, 2015 at 2:05 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: He did, but that's a theological discussion.
I have 3 children from 4 pregnancies. If I got pregnant again my fetus would have a significantly less amount of potential for survival than my first two pregnancies, and somewhat less than my fourth pregnancy. That's just considering the biological implications because I know you will spout on about free will if I start talking about how the potential was effected by my exhusband.
If god believes all lives to be equal then it makes no sense for him to allow pregnancy in a woman whose body cannot support a pregnancy. If he allows such a pregnancy then it seems that he doesn't value the life of the woman or the fetus as much as he does other lives. I mean...god is supposed to know you and love you before he creates you in your mothers womb, but if he really loved you'd he'd have found a safer womb to stick you in right?
If only this logic could be processed in some people's minds. Well put. But, NOOO it's god's will when he kills a fetus. He still wuvs whoever and whoevers wittle fetus he killed. The extremely small amount of time spent in the womb must be part of some master plan. That's the beauty of it, everything is part of the master plan, no matter what it is.. no matter how good, how evil, how despicable it's all out of love from invisible man made out of pure love that lives in the sky. How comforting..
Quote: We may never have satisfactory answers as to why [insert horrible things that happen to people]...but god allows nature to take it's course he really does value your life. You just have to have faith.
....and that's when the debate ends because we are no longer having a rational conversation.
I’ll have to start using that last line. The ‘conversations’ will be no more than a post or two if I feel like having a direct conversation about morality or religion with a theist. Or any time I hear, "God told me this", "It's in the bible", "Just because it's true" (without anything to back it up), "I can feel it's true", "Life is sacred", "We're created in god's image", any argument from ignorance of our existence in general, or "Because I believe that aborting a fetus is wrong even if the mother's life still can be saved, I'd rather see both of them die" type of arguments. MINDBOGGLING how these types of arguments can be used in conversations that are meant to be rational.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
