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All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
(September 16, 2015 at 3:15 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I think everyone has some racism in them. It's not just white people, your Asian friend, who has also been raised in a society which has undertones of white supremacy, will also have racist views. People are products of their environment. I think when you're born and raised in a country like America, where the notion of "race" and white supremacy is so deeply woven into the fabric of the country, it's downright impossible not to have some racist views. That doesn't mean you're inherently a bad person, it just means you've been indoctrinated with a lot of shitty conditioning you need to unlearn.

I think most people (especially white people but not exclusively) don't see themselves as racist just because they agree that slavery, genocide, segregation and lynching are bad. That's all we see as "racism", when people are "really" being hurt, we see the more subtle manifestations as harmless and petty when people complain.

I'm white and I do think "white fragility" is a thing, there are a lot of white people who act like being told they said something a bit backwards is somehow worse than experiencing racism. Sure, I think there comes a point where people definitely can say prejudiced, fucked up, hell I'll even say racist things about white people, but being told "be careful, that sounded problematic because..." is not racism.

I think is enhanced by confirmation bias and the tendency to prefer those who look like us. Most marriages are between people of the same race and social/economic class - Meaning that if you're white and middle class, you're more likely to marry a white middle class person - Particularly because most people we grow up with are also part of the same social class and share the same culture, therefore we feel compelled and attracted by them. I think race certainly doesn't exist scientifically, but neither do countries but it's still a useful concept in our everyday lives. What separates races the most is culture and culture is probably the strongest cause of racism - I.E. The reason why whites thought blacks were inferior wasn't just beacuse they were darker, but because of how they organized and acted/behaved. It's curious to see how racial dynamics may vary - My girlfriend is part gypsy and she fucking hates gypsies because she despises the culture.

If we are going to use race as a useful social construct to discuss power dynamics, sovereignty of territories, etc, we might as well admit that white people are a race as well, just like black people, and we are divided into sub-groups as well (i.e. Spanish and Italians are darker than Brits and Germans, but it also depends on the person).
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ?? - by Dystopia - September 16, 2015 at 9:08 pm

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