Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist

[bennyboy]

This appears to be the rather lazy and armchair line of reasoning employed by Deepak Chopra.  The essence of it is that Idealism is sppoky, mysterious and hard to understand, Quantum Theory (QT) is spooky, mysterious and hard to understand.  Therefore QT supports Idealism.  You have to work a lot harder to connect Idealism and QT.  From my rather limited understanding of QT it does nothing at all to validate Idealism, whatever strange and spooky physics exists, it is part of our natural world be it 4, 10 or 11 dimensions, be it packets of energy, strings and branes or solid particles.

I'm not saying "it's mysterious therefore God" or "it's mysterious therefore idealistic." I'm saying "the fundamental elements of reality cannot be expressed except as ideas." I'm not saying we don't know about reality, I'm saying the reality we DO know is more consistent with an idealistic world view than a physicalist one. If I'm wrong, then show me what a photon looks like, or even what physicists think it MIGHT look like. Your argument seems to be a strawman attempt to spin into woo a simple obvservation about the best the science can currently say about reality.

Hell with the electrodes and equipment. Get drunk and see what happens to your ghost-mind when your meat-brain gets a good shot or two in it. That's an experiment we can all run - and so there's no need for debate on that count. Alcohol does something, regardless of whether or not we're wisps or sweetbread-in-waiting. Beer science, right thur.

Yes, but what about this experiment demonstrates that an idealistic world view is wrong, or that a physicalist world view is right? I don't know about AKD, but I'm not arguing solipsism-- why shouldn't I expect the ideas and experiences that are bennyboy to interact with the ideas and concepts which are not bennyboy? Why shouldn't Matrix booze, or Mind-of-God booze, make me drunk?