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Help Me Understand, part duex
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RE: Help Me Understand, part duex
Addendum to Add: I wasn't being a jerk, by saying Christian evolutionary biologists. I'm not just trying to get a rise out of you. Literally half of the evolutionary biologists on the planet are Christians, more (slightly) than any other group, and only slightly less than the next major group (us). And my Beloved is one of them. As was my boss, three of my nine coworkers (plus a Muslim and a Hindu). And yet the concencus about evolution, how it works, and that it happened, are effectively universal, whether we're devout or not.

The only people who profess to have a problem with it are those who think it's anti-God. But it's not! It just doesn't care about that part of the question. That's why I recommend The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Reasons for Belief by Dr. Francis S. Collins. Not only is he one of the top ten geneticists on earth and has been a science adviser to the last two Presidents, he is also an evangelical Christain. Yet he explains better than I could, here, why evolution really happened. We really are cousins of the chimps, and that's okay. He calls DNA the "language of God" because we can, through understanding it, read the "fingerprints of the Creator". He also says that if we find something in nature, we shouldn't reject it because of preformed ideas about God. If God is the Creator, then what we find in nature is the work of the Creator, no matter what our human presuppositions were! Every scientific discovery he makes, he wrote, makes him feel as if he has seen a brief glimpse of the face of God. I've heard similar sentiments from coworkers and my Beloved on the subject.

Please take a while to carefully consider why you consider evolution such a threat to your worldview that you'd rather attack me as "proud" for saying I used to be a scientist.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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Help Me Understand, part duex - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Darkstar - September 18, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Spooky - September 18, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Pyrrho - September 18, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 18, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Athene - September 18, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Cecelia - September 18, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Athene - September 18, 2015 at 10:20 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Cecelia - September 18, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 18, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Minimalist - September 18, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Jenny A - September 19, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Jackalope - September 19, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Pyrrho - September 19, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 19, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Pyrrho - September 19, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Pyrrho - September 19, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Simon Moon - September 20, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Silver - September 18, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 18, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 19, 2015 at 1:49 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Silver - September 19, 2015 at 2:00 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Silver - September 19, 2015 at 1:51 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 19, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Longhorn - September 19, 2015 at 3:40 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by robvalue - September 19, 2015 at 5:46 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 19, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Natachan - September 19, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 20, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 21, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 22, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Godschild - September 22, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by KevinM1 - September 22, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 22, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Godschild - September 22, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 22, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Godschild - September 23, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 23, 2015 at 3:12 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by SofaKingHigh - September 23, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 24, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by SofaKingHigh - September 23, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 24, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 24, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by SofaKingHigh - September 28, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Godschild - September 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by SofaKingHigh - September 23, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Godschild - September 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 22, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 22, 2015 at 10:51 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Neo-Scholastic - September 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Faith No More - September 22, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 23, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 24, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by robvalue - September 23, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 23, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Dystopia - September 23, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Angrboda - September 24, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by ApeNotKillApe - September 28, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Drich - September 28, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Help Me Understand, part duex - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 28, 2015 at 11:19 am

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