(September 23, 2015 at 10:00 am)Faith No More Wrote:(September 23, 2015 at 9:25 am)ChadWooters Wrote: So, you believe in talking snakes (allegory)
and talking donkeys (yes)
969 year-old men (yes)
a world-wide flood that covered the highest mountain (yes)
ghost, spirits, demons, angels (yes to all)
resurrections (yes)
eternal life in heaven and hell (yes)
a virgin birth (yes)
And you expect people to take you seriously? It's funny how you like to make jabs at how you perceive a naturalist worldview to be philosophically inconsistent, yet you believe in all kinds of wild, impossible nonsense with no evidence. Join the 21st century, Chad, and recognize that reason without empirical evidence is dead and everything you listed there is an impossibility.
(September 23, 2015 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote:(September 18, 2015 at 8:00 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Prompted by the thread started by Shuffle (Help Me Understand), this is for the Christians here that do accept evolution. Which is good, since it's been observed many times, in the lab and the field.
All the evidence available, in all the related fields (genetic, fossil, morphology, etc) all prove that modern homo sapiens did not come from one original man and woman.
There is absolutely no evidence for an 'Adam and Eve'.
Therefore:
No eating of the fruit of the tree of good and evil.
No 'original sin', no 'fall'.
No fall, no hereditary stain on humanity.
No reason for humanity to be forgiven.
No need for Yahweh to sacrifice his son (himself) in order to forgive humanity.
Please reconcile for me...
omg, that great. No 'proof' of two indivisuals that died 6000+ years ago
let start by you defining what it is you think 'proof' is of two specific people over the span of 6K years.
Maybe your looking for bones... if you were then I could point out that bones decay in hundreds of years and unless intentionally preserved would be all but dust after the first 1000 years. Maybe your looking for garments, a house, cave drawing... Maybe you don't realize that were know very little of specific indivisuals who lived 6000+ years ago, and don't know you cant honestly make a compareson of 'proof' for someone who live a few hundred years ago to someone who live 6000 years ago. This almost 2000 years before the pyrmids were built, what possible proof could you be looking for that establishes Adam and Eve, that we can compare outside of the bible to any other specific individual of that same time period?
You're actually believe that as the literal account? How old are you?
Could you please explain the 100,000 year old human bones that have been found in Ethiopia please? Or were they big bad Lucifer?
Do you still believe in Santa?