RE: Oh, Fuck....
September 24, 2015 at 2:45 am
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2015 at 2:45 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(September 24, 2015 at 1:56 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yes, but he hasn't done anything except criticizing pedo priests. And when it comes to evolution you know if he "embraces" it he's a hypocrite because without Adam and Eve there is not Christianity and it's fuckin' sin.
How do you know that's all he's done? If I were in his (weird little) shoes, I would not want to expose the underbelly of my organization; I would consider that a breach of the trust the Bishops placed in me when they voted me into the office. Is what happened to those children horrible? Of course! And we need to continue to lean on the Vatican, per the 2014 UN commission report, to obey its obligations as a nation and signatory to the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
As for Evolution violating the concept of the "original sin" passed down through Adam, their position is and has always been more nuanced than the envangelical/fundamentalist literal-version. I've discussed it in other threads and don't really feel like getting into it, here... but there are a large number of Catholic clergy who are also involved in scientific research of various types, including evolutionary biology. This Pope is actually listening to what they're telling the organization, and changing their doctrine to reflect the "Galilean" reality. Considering it took them nearly 400 years to do it with the actual Galileo findings, I'd say Francis is making remarkable progress.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
