(September 26, 2015 at 11:12 am)Aractus Wrote:(September 26, 2015 at 3:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Multiple public records, medical casefiles, photos of him stuff he collected, there would be DNA traces on stuff around his room and so it goes on. There would be both direct and indirect evidence for his existence and there is also the fact that it is a mundane claim so only mundane evidence is required.
DBP you should be very careful because I'm talking about a real person who obviously meant a lot to me. Suppose I gave you his DNA - what would you compare it to? How would you identify it? It's been 15 years (nearly) since his death.
DNA, photos, and medical records are things that didn't exist and were not accessible in the ancient world.
Scholars unanimously tell us that Jesus and Paul existed. If you're going to dispute it then provide valid evidence.
Sorry to upset you, but you literally did ask. As for DNA I would compare it to his lineage like they are doing in Russia with the Romanovs. You weren't asking about the ancient world. But the case for the existence of historical figures is uncertain. For example there is no actual evidence that Socrates was a real person and there are some who posit that he was a figure made up by Plato to illustrate a point. ( I saw a documentary the other week on the BBC about Socrates and this was mentioned).
Quote:There has been some question about whether Socrates really existed or was only ever a creation of Plato. Just about everyone agrees that the Socrates in the later dialogues is a creation, but what about the earlier ones? The differences between the two figures is one reason to think that a real Socrates existed, There are also a few references made by other authors. If Socrates didnt exist, however, that wouldnt affect the ideas attributed to him.http://atheism.about.com/od/philosopherb...crates.htm
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