About fucking time, Saudi Arabia...

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TruthWorthy

The way you write "OUR SECULAR GOVERNMENTS" just pours narcissism to extended levels, you're so full of them "secular governments" that some of them -ironically- threatens the world with nukes -or actually use them twice-, or bomb the crap out of countries then whine about "dogs of war who are loaded with grudges enough to melt mountains"..yeah "ze terrorists"..and they just forgot they bombed their countries back to the stone age for stinky oil, ironic. "OUR SECULAR GOVERNMENTS"..

There is a healthy sort of pride (and I suppose it's not entirely dissimilar to the sort you experience), that of accomplishment. It is something like understanding the world for what it truly is and thus improving you understanding. It is the realisation that a long held belief has been erroneously taken for granted to be the truth. And so it is with religious belief, and our secular state and legal system. I can undoubtedly state that it is better than a theocracy because it has logical foundations. As I stated, in my last post, muslims are deprived of logic of contradiction (accepted around the world for its incisiveness, reasoning, truth deriving qualities); unlike the logic of dualism which basically can't establish an issue with contradiction (yes, the coran is actually full of them), and is unable to divide any untruth from the system of negotiation it's based upon. Basically that means we have to take a statistical analysis (for appeasing simpletons - for want of a better understanding), and ascertain a conclusion based on that - for example, in the same way the coran is 3% peaceful, while 97% violent. I could draw a conclusion that between the argument whether the coran is peaceful or violent, it is extremely violent. The peaceful aspects are negligible.

About saudi practices.. ummm let's have an example shall we ?

coran says :
Sura 7 Verse 31
( 31 )   O children of Adam, take your adornment at every masjid, and eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He likes not those who commit excess.

Sura 17 Verse 26, 27
( 26 )   And give the relative his right, and [also] the poor and the traveler, and do not spend wastefully.
( 27 )   Indeed, the wasteful are brothers of the devils, and ever has Satan been to his Lord ungrateful.

Saudi royals are criticised and appreciated by the muslim community. You choose to use them as an example of abuse of wealth and therefore not aligned with Islam in one instance while in another you embrace their wealth for jihadist operations (which you obviously are less prone to disclose publicly but which the gratitude is ever prevalent by the recipients). You quietly praise them and openly disrespect some of their practices. You aren't attacking them but the practices they're committing, right?

About your excellent 'fascist cult of Islam post'
the first word I spotted was "Angola banned islam".
... bring in the brave secular president of angola who vomits corruption on breakfast too.

Quite!
Actually, I did make a slight error in that part. Angola government simply hasn't recognised Islams legal status and for other reasons relating to scriptural alignment and fundamental beliefs and practices deems it a sect. The mosques which were destroyed were simply built without any sort of permission.

I apologise to everyone for the misinformation. I would always prefer the truth over lies...
Being that this is the only argument you've staked against my post, we shall all presume you accept the remainder to be true and correct.

Too bad this issue with Islam is persistent today.

They are about a century behind.  It's a minor thing in the scheme of things.

I highly doubt a century would bring them up to speed with the rest of the world (which puts them much further back than maybe even 500 years), because even with the example being set by the rest of the world, the muslim world is not only unwilling but unable to change. They'll follow their hadith to the bitter end of their civilisation (of course along with the coran) as one hadith says 'innovation is a mistake..'.