(October 4, 2015 at 9:57 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(October 4, 2015 at 4:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: Your ignorance is behind belief.
In order to feel and react there got to be a consciousness that register the event.
Plants do not have senses as humans and yet they are able to understand what's going on.
I just hold my laughing for the day that it will be demonstrate in a way that even tough atheists
will have no choice but admit the unavoidable and that day it will be known officialy that
everything is made of consciousness and that consciousness is God.![]()
Oh, by the way show me just a single example that you contradict me in the past.![]()
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Also, I think you mean to say that my ignorance is "beyond belief." I know English isn't your first language, but if you're going to call someone else ignorant, don't fuck up their language in the very act of doing so. My computer doesn't have drivers installed for that level of idiocy, irony, and hypocrisy.
Oh, my God, that is a big big deal Pinky but i suppose that if you take these small things so seriously then your life must be a real misery.

Get over Pinky, life is not that bad.

Quote:I directly contradicted you (with evidence) about near death experiences and how they are basically dreams that happen completely inside the brain (like all dreams). Your response was essentially "Nuh-uh it's majik floting conshusness" with nothing to support such an assertion. Regardless of whether you see it, you were substantially contradicted on virtually every point you've tried to make so far.
Garbage.
You never did contradict me.
All you came up with was the opinion of someone who doesn't believe in these things.
I could find as many opposite opinions that agree with me.
Physical science is in no way able to understand how the consciousness works for the simple fact that consciousness is not something physical.
Even a demented small boy would understand what you can or can not do with something that your physical senses can not grasp.

Quote:Plants do not feel, and they do not "react" in the sense that you mean. They do not receive sensory input and produce a voluntary response. Yes, if you cut them, one thing happens, and if you fertilize them, another thing happens, but that doesn't mean that the plants are consciously sensing those stimuli or actively choosing those responses. It just means they've evolved different automatic responses to those events. How hard is this concept?
For God sake stop fantasizing and start getting some useful information from researchers.
Not all these researchers agree but at least you can make a better judgement than coming down with
the usual crap.
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/ne...out-plants
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/1...gent-plant