RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 11, 2015 at 3:51 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2015 at 4:14 pm by jenny1972.
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(September 17, 2015 at 8:58 am)robvalue Wrote: 1) Both parties in the relationship exist, and are easily distinguishable from being imaginary.your right a relationship does have the above qualities , and also a relationship with God absolutely does have the above 3 qualities and if it does not have them then it is not a personal relationship . a relationship is not one sided , although some people may consider simply praying to be the equivalent of a relationship its not.
2) Both parties have an independent intelligence.
3) Both parties directly communicate with the other party in a meaningful, observable way.
In this way, I can have personal relationship with any human, any animal that has some way to at least acknowledge my interaction with it, and arguably with an artificial intelligence. It seems to me that if these 3 criteria are not met, it is not a meaningful personal relationship. The only exception I can think of is where one party becomes unable to communicate at some point, such as a friend going into a coma. You could maybe argue that you can continue to have a personal relationship with them, based on your history together, even though they can't directly answer back.
However, it seems to me that most people's personal relationship with God/Jesus/Allah etc. satisfies not even one of these criteria.
i disagree a relationship with God
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain