(October 13, 2015 at 10:57 am)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 13, 2015 at 10:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Jenny: Most people define god as being outside our reality to account for the fact that it's nowhere to be found. Can you define "god" in a way that I can distinguish from nothing or a figment of people's imagination?
It's a bad analogy to compare atheism to the belief the earth is flat, because atheism isn't by default a belief. It's a lack of belief. I explain this in detail on my website hereIf anything it should be compared to people who wouldn't commit to saying the earth was flat, nor that it was anything else, and were awaiting further evidence.
Some atheists choose to make their own claims of positive belief or knowledge, but it's not a requirement.
Jenny's sister: I'm not sure how much was sarcasm, what are you here to save us from? Or was that banter?
i have come across some atheists who consider themselves to be 'gnostic athiests' who believe they know that God does not exist and believe they have it all figured out , and there are some atheists who are more open minded to the possibility that God could exist they just have yet to be convinced . the first type may not even be convinced if science did prove God exists or even proof from God if they are aggressively against the concept of God .
Well, good for you. The majority, however, doesn't make the claim that there are no gawds. We just lack the belief, mostly because we've never seen convincing evidence or heard convincing arguments. If you would like to present some, we'd like to see/hear it. Beware though, if you start pulling out the some tired old debunked bullshit all your predecessors brought to the table, you'll probably get ridiculed for it.
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