(October 13, 2015 at 11:26 am)Evie Wrote:(October 13, 2015 at 10:54 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Respectfully, I'm perfectly comfortable with thinking the world is flat (to use the analogy) until we have scientific evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, if we go off the imagination of people who have "revelations about God" (and through that, the "nature of the universe"), then we wind up with "turtles all the way down".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
Is this post about me? No calling out! It's in the rules!
(Lol I iz best turtle).
You = best turtle. All other turtles are beneath you, all the way down.

A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.