(October 13, 2015 at 11:54 am)jenny1972 Wrote: i agree if you cant detect God then its not rational to believe in God
And yet your religious views says "believe in god," so...

Quote:. im not sure what you mean however by religious people wanting to secretly substitute the former with the latter ( cannot / does not need to ) can you clarify that idea ?
Well, I hear a lot of theists essentially state that they don't need to fulfill the usual burden of proof because their god cannot be detected by the scientific method/mundane investigation. That's literally their justification: their god cannot be detected by science (because they said so) and therefore this god should not be subjected to the same level of scrutiny that we would give every other claim. It cannot be detected by normal methods, and therefore, instead of the conclusion that this being has failed to meet the burden of proof for existing, they want us to conclude that the normal methods are unsuitable for detecting it, and we should just believe anyway.
God can't shoulder the burden of proof, and so there's a certain stripe of theist who will argue that god doesn't need to be subjected to the burden of proof, because he would fail if we tried that.
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