(October 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm)Beccs Wrote:(October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Beccs I hate to put this like this to you but yes. The theist "religion" is actually DIFFERENT than atheism. If you ever actuallly meet a sincere theist one day, you will undoubtedly be convinced.
It is also not the evidence you provide. It's the way you approach the topic you're presenting. You can be a balls to the wall atheist, hard pressed, finger pressing or whatever, but if you are not sincere, you will never see the actual battle theists see as it really does unfold. It's all about the evidence anyhow beccs, trying to intepret God is actually the first thing christians jump to (as compared to you atheists). Therefore, convincing you God is real is as easy as convincing a child.
I fail simply to see how so many have failed to convince you.
Yes, I know theism is different from atheism: that's the point we've been making. Atheism is a non belief in deities.
Oh, the "not real Christian" argument.
The various theists, whether Christian, Muslim or, in one memorable instance, Scientologist, have been VERY sincere, devout, and determined.
It's their evidence that is always lacking. It always comes down to personal experiences, claims from incredulity, or, when all else fails, threats of an imaginary torment.
And I've encountered plenty who have made the same claims I'm seeing here: variants of "Just open your heart" (something difficult, even for a cardiologist), and the like.
Beccs I hate to break this to ya babe. But christianity is all about God. Theism- is all about God. So if you plan on making any claims from the atheism slant on things, I reckon you better be making some damn good ones. Because a true theist never backs down from his God, in the face of humility even, and it is rather hurtful for some people more than it is for others. I hope you pride yourself on hurting the theists that you have (if you have). Because in truth, you've never hurt the first christian. Christians from all across the globe flock to the belief in god for the purpose of to live the ideal. Some want to live the dream. Whatever. It doesn't really matter. Just so long as you are a theist though, you will never stop trying to prove to people your religion is true.
And when it comes to personal verdicts, all the rest sits aside.
That's ALL OF THEM.