(October 14, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: im sorry if you got offended i did not mean to offend and i wasnt directing my comments to you personally or to anyone else personally i just believe that to remain openminded to the idea that God could exist is the only way to eventually connect with God after proof is given to you and no proof can even be acknowledged if any have a closed mind to the idea.
Didn't think you were attacking us personally. But you should know that it's irritating to the point of anger, sometimes, to be constantly told that we are only nonbelievers because our mind is closed.
There's a critical difference between considering the stories of humans about gods to be mistaken delusions, or outright lies (e.g. Joseph Smith's story about how he got the Book of Mormon), and then be told that we are the ones who are closed-minded.
Yet each believer who tells us that atheists are closed-minded will happily stand there and tell us why the beliefs of others are silly.
Southern Baptists (my religious upbringing) taught that Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintoists, Hindus, Baha'i, Animists, Wotan/Aesirists, Wiccan/Pagans, Jehovah's Witnesses, and so on and so on, were all ridiculously mistaken, but then would look you straight in the face after half an hour of making fun of the stupid beliefs of others and say, "But we know the true nature of God because we have His Word."
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
