(October 14, 2015 at 9:01 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 14, 2015 at 8:36 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Do you have a specific, documented case you can cite? (People don't survive brain death afaik.)
These days people can be dead for up to an hour and come back among us and have memories. when there is a lack of oxygen, our recollections are fuzzy and sometimes non-existent. The less oxygen you have, the less you remember. But the people who have died, and recall their death experiences, describe things in a very clear, concise, and structured way. Lack of oxygen would mean you barely remember anything.
That even when the brain is shut down, on certain occasions consciousness endures. One of the doctors I interviewed, a cardiologist in Holland, believes that consciousness may go on forever. So the postulate among some scientists is that the brain is not the only locus of thought, which is very interesting.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...-booktalk/
Quote:It's absolutely true that we don't know what happens, say, after six days being dead. All we know now—and that's one of the reasons I think it's important for scientists to investigate far more—is what happens up to an hour.
You spoke of people being brain dead. This is nothing of the sort. It's unclear what exactly is happening in near death experiences, but so far, all we have are anecdotes about "strange experiences" with no clear link to anything having to do with death and the afterlife. Matter of fact, a third of all NDEs occur in people who aren't even remotely near death. That alone suggests it is some natural, non-metaphysical event unrelated to the afterlife.
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