RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
October 17, 2015 at 5:31 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2015 at 5:45 pm by jenny1972.)
(October 17, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'm probably going to say what almost everyone will, only I'll get in first - my position on the existence of gods depends on how those gods are defined. Borrowing from Richard Dawkins, if the god you're proposing is a special tree carved with totem symbols, then I will accept that it exists as a tree. There's no way I'm automatically going to accept any claims made for your god(s), which is why you hear us asking for evidence all the time. It's not us being contrary for the sake of it, though that can be fun too; it's more that you (generalising) keep asking us to adopt a position of belief based on nothing we can test. Worse, those things that we can test always fall apart under the simplest of examination.
Now I'm going to go a stage further than the usual atheist line and state that I don't believe a god as defined in common popular religious mythology can exist in a Universe like ours. The nature of this god is usually defined to be totally at odds with the reality we experience on a daily basis, to the point where nothing coherent can be said about it without it devolving into a battle of personalities and hurt feelings.
so would you be open to the possibility of God existing outside of religious mythology such as the concept that God is in everything that exists or God is nature or in some form that did not contradict science ?
(October 17, 2015 at 4:53 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:(October 16, 2015 at 12:33 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
yes thats right ..... why dont you share with me your childhood experiences and your intimate relationships and your personal feelings ? i knew you for about 2 minutes before i shared what i did im sure God will want me to share more at the perfect time - regardless and despite my own personal hesitation about it which is exactly what happened yesterday , im in no rush .
I didn't realize Gods thoughts were personal to you. Seems like the kind of reaction someone would have at being asked their own thoughts but as we both know thats absurd. These are Gods thoughts and as such you have no reason to feel threatened by curiosity displayed towards them. Unless God is offended by my curiosity? Is he?
Its almost like you're saying your God is personal... like a... whats the term... a personal God.
Your own personal God. Thats it.
i do have a relationship with God and its something that i do care about whether you believe me or not and im sure you have me all figured out like you have the rest of the universe all figured out and organized your not curious your only interested in laughing at something that i care about deeply and that means a lot to me . I have no hesitation whatsoever sharing my own thoughts with anyone i love debating a lot of different topics and im very outspoken about my opinions on things .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain