(October 17, 2015 at 2:14 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 17, 2015 at 12:55 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: No, you don't. I'm sure you can and do express your beliefs often.
you cannot know you might think you know whats going on in my head but you simply dont know for a fact nothing but a very very biased opinion from someone who does not believe that God can exist ....
I'm pretty sure most of us think that God can exist; we just don't think God does exist. There's an important difference, there.
It's why we point to reality when dealing with the concepts of God that are brought to us by Believers, and show that most of the concepts they have accepted are incompatible with reality. For God to be discussed on a basis of reality-compatibility, we are presuming "If God exists as you claim, it would conform to testable reality in the following ways". If you then proceed to feelings-based "evidence", we're going to point out to you that often, human feelings do not themselves conform to reality. We are amazingly good at observer bias and sheer imagination.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
