RE: Friend deleted me after 2 years because i'm atheist
October 18, 2015 at 12:35 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2015 at 12:37 am by Heat.)
(October 17, 2015 at 11:54 pm)Aractus Wrote:I know you are trying to be fair to the other person, but by benefit of the doubt what I meant was that many many times I would say something along the lines of "Okay man let's just agree to disagree" and he would continue because he needed me to say he was correct. You guys don't know the situation, but it's not just my opinion when I say that I gave him the benefit of the doubt.(October 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: I always gave him the benefit of the doubt, I would agree with him just so he would shut up and stop taking our arguments so seriously. He couldn't handle being wrong. I didn't care if I was wrong.
When you say you gave him the "benefit of the doubt" that's pertaining to your opinion. In relations to penal offences it's actually considered a human right.
And you clearly do care if you're wrong because you flared up like a christmas tree when I tried to explain to you the flaws in "logic arguments".
(October 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: I want him to become atheist because I lack tolerance for his beliefs? Alright you're not worth responding to anymore because you're either trolling or just brain-dead stupid. I never brought my religion in to the conversation for two years, and when I did i said specifically "Im telling you this because I dont think its something that should affect our relationship negatively in any way, or is imporant, im telling you this because I trust you and want you to understand my world view because of my stance on the subject". Really?
I have a feeling what Jenny meant was that you wanted him to assimilate in some way. But the fact is that Christians and Atheists agree on 99% or more of things - we drive on the same side of the street, eat the same foods, work the same hours, etc.
You consider yourself an intellectual and some people your age may find that intimidating. Heck the last girl I dated was intimidated by my intellect - I didn't want her to be I liked her a lot, but she was and it was a clear impassable barrier, sadly.
(October 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: Even in my long and very angry response to him I didn't attack his religion, or mention it, which I very easily could of. Don't talk to me again. It makes me angry that you would even say my atheism made me not accept his religion, and somehow i'm the one to blame. Like shut the fuck up honestly you have no idea what you are talking about. Unbelievable. Frankly you should be the poster child for all religious misconceptions. Turning a situation that is clearly about something else into an atheist being intolerant for someone's religion. Get the fuck off this forum, because you just exposed your preconceived notions about atheists, so why are you here if all you think is that atheists are intolerant and non accepting of religious beliefs. You're going to tell me how defensive I just got and how that's probably how I was with my friend or something, and this is proof I have to be right. Go ahead, you fail to realize that you are not my friend, and I would never argue with such hostility toward my friend. Even when making ridiculous claims.
Why get so angry over a two sentence reply from Jenny?
You are on our forums you know (although I'll grant you that goes for her as well). If you stick around they'll become your forums as well and you'll be one of "us" (well you'll belong to the AF community anyway).
I don't think you were intolerant of your friend's religion, FWIW, but I do feel that you may have been inconsiderate in other areas. But for the record, just to make this clear to you, I'm not suggesting that's why your friendship has been lost. As per my previous reply sometimes you lose friendships through no fault of your own.
This is the reason I got mad at you. It's because you are comparing me to someone who has anger issues, or some type of issue when I explain the negative aspects of the person in question. Whereas someone with anger issues(for example) would exaggerate the situation dramatically and think they were giving the other person the benefit of the doubt, in reality they probably didn't live up to those claims. That's not this case. I try to look at everything from the other persons point of view. I tried everything to get him to understand where I was coming from when I said I needed some proof to believe him, I didn't just say "Why do you believe that" and when he responded no say "You're wrong then". I actually tried to get him to understand my point of view so it was not just one sided. Many times I would type long, long messages explaining why i couldn't just accept his opinion as true when he just says "Fuck you kid you're so stupid if you dont believe ___". I would even at the end of these messages say "Don't even respond to this, just think about it" cause I knew that a majority of the time he will respond and curse me out, in the process convincing himself that i'm the one in the wrong.
I also flared at you because, again, whether my definition of logic was wrong or not I DO NOT CARE. It was not the point of this thread. I love to know more information. This thread however, was not a thread of gathering information, or making a statement of what's true. It was a personal story where I was looking for personal advice. For you to come on here and pick apart my every word and say "this is wrong, that's wrong" doesn't seem to coorelate to the actual story does it?
For example, if you go write an email, do I read your email and tell you what grammatical errors you have? No, because in the context of an email, the purpose wasn't to have your grammar 100% right. The purpose of an email is to read the content the person wrote, and think about the subject they are addressing. Although they may have poor grammar, it's irrelevant pertaining to finding out the reason the person actually wrote the email in the first place.