Evidence that God exists

[atrasicarius]

Seems an unnecessarily insulting reply, but I'll humour you

Ok, so you don't think that your statements are speculation, but you cannot say how you "know" them to be true either.

Tosh. The statement up for grabs here is whether faith requires existence. I say it does not. Read the OP and tell me what we're discussing apart from that???

Of course faith doesnt require existence. That's the whole point. No matter how much faith I have that gravity doesnt apply to me, I'm still gonna fall if I walk off a cliff. You can have all the faith you want in whatever supernatural entity you prefer, but it wont have any effect on reality.

You said, "God exists objectively, therefore we have reason to think that he is real. Evidence has no bearing, as it can't possibly." To exist objectively is to be real, by your definition. Therefore, what you said was, "God is real, therefore we have reason to think that he is real. Evidence has no bearing, as it can't possibly." How is that different from what I said?

Not my definition.. West's definition.

You are real, therefore we have reason to think that you're real???

You said "god is real because god is real, so we dont need any evidence"

So you are real because you are real, so we don't need any evidence.

I don't see what we're achieving here.

What we're achieving is showing that you're using some pretty intense circular logic.