RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 1:57 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Irrational Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 1:42 pm)alpha male Wrote: Where did he say that? In John 8:44 he explicitly says, "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do."
It doesn't. It's things like I and the Father are one, You've seen me, so you've seen the Father, the I Am's, and the claims to be the messiah that indicate that he thought that he was God.
He prayed to the Father, so he clearly realized that he was not the Father.
And yet,according to you, Isaiah 9 calls Jesus Everlasting Father.
Yep, and Jesus said that if you've seen him, you've seen the Father. It's a bit of a paradox. Depending opn the circumstances, Jesus emphasized either his oneness with the Father or his distinction as the Son.