(October 20, 2015 at 3:30 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: But even if you walked in to a room and a being appeared to you claiming to be God and knew things about you only you would know, would you believe in God or chalk it up to a psychotic episode? I've always been fascinated by the demand of non-believers that God let himself be known. I seriously think if any non-believer was to have an experience of a being coming to them and knowing all about them and performing a miracle in front of them, they would probably still not believe. It's what is commonly referred to as a doubting Thomas. I think the only meaningful way is to reveal himself to all people at once in the sky so people can have corroboration. But I guess that's whats described in Revelation.But Phil, would you go to Bellevue and demand that all the patients who are their because they saw god be released? What about Nat Turner? He heard god tell him to kill all those people. When I was married, my husband claimed that he needed to kill all the demons in order to win favor with god. Does all this sound ridiculous to you? Why then are you fascinated that atheists would not automatically believe in god if they saw or heard a being that claimed to be such?
And that is such a big IF. In the Bible Moses, Aaron and 72 other men saw god. The god they saw was Elohim according to the interlinear Bible. So the god they saw couldn't be the god that Paul tells us no man has seen or the god said no man can see my face and live. Suppose Elohim appeared to me and told me the bible wasn't really talking about him when it says he created the grass and the trees before he created the sun and the moon. Would you advise me to believe him? Or should I wait for one of the gods I read about in the Bible to appear?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.