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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
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I'm definitely in favor of the concept of affirmative consent, as I think the harm it is designed to prevent is among the most egregious wrongs of our present society; however, I fear how our justice system may immediately interpret it in the most broad and harsh way possible, as they do with most laws, and immediately start doing harm with it.


Just googled "affirmative consent" and my first though is what kind of bullshit is this? Women need to speak up and take some control of their sex life if they aren't into it and TELL HIM NO. Yes, men need to respect it when a woman says no, but she should be clear about her feelings or before long you'll have to sign a contract in front of witnesses to get it on. I think there are few men who'd actually rape a woman once she said "no". My very first boyfriend I never said no to, even though there were things that made me extremely uncomfortable/I would have rather not done. I just accepted it. How was he suppose to know since I never spoke up and said "stop, I'm not ok with this"? It was regrettable I didn't communicate my feelings, but it wasn't his fault to reasonably assume I was ok with it when I acted ok with it. After him, I never had a problem saying "NO" or "get the fuck away from me" if I wasn't into it. Told plenty of other guys in no uncertain terms I definitely did not want to have sex with them. Seems perfectly reasonable if (someone not severely intoxicated) doesn't say "no" or make some other clear indication they don't consent it's ok to proceed. Are you really worried about hurting a guys feeling vs. having unwanted sex with him? And I suppose the same could go for guys too. There are definitely sexually aggressive women out there too, and I think male rape or unwanted sex is underreported/not spoken about because of the stigma it carries. I think the focus should be on speaking up about your feelings.

I guess the one thing that needs to be addressed is not taking home someone who is severely intoxicated and unable to consent. But that can go both ways because a lot of the time the man is ALSO intoxicated past the point of consent too, so who is guilty when neither party could consent? Why is the burden automatically on the man in those cases? I think "no means no" (and actually say "no") paired with some fucking self control (i.e. stop acting like wild animals in heat when your drunk/high when you'd never behave that way sober) would solve a whole lot of problems.
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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community? - by MentalGiant - October 21, 2015 at 12:23 am
SPEEDBUMP - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2015 at 9:42 am

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