(October 21, 2015 at 2:19 am)robvalue Wrote: A dragon's about to eat you! Wow, that was close. Oh no, another one! Wow you're so lucky, another dragon killed it just in time.
Look out...
I'd love to see through a theist's eyes for a few minutes, as the world they often describe sounds nothing at all like the one I live in. It sounds more like the scenario I describe above, with angels and demons and shit running around everywhere.
If you genuinely want to know how they think, read This Present Darkness and Piercing the Darkness by Frank Peretti. They're evangelical Christian books about the war between the invisible demons and angels (the latter empowered by Prayer Warriors, who help the angels fight harder, or not, in order to save the humans they're protecting), engaged in what they call "spiritual warfare". The books are actually somewhat decent, as sci-fi... except they're not science fiction to the evangelicals.
On that note, I'm off to bed. Have to drive to St. Louis in about five hours from now.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.