Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd)

[Statler Waldorf]

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Kind of funny how Evolutionists always forget that without a guiding mechanism, energy increases entropy.

Natural selection is a guiding mechanism.

So you can talk all you want about the Earth being an "open" system, but a bull running around in a china shop is also an open system, but there's a lot of entropy going on in there because there is not a mechanism to direct the energy.

Never mind the fact that there isn't any known way in which to apply the laws of thermodynamics to living creatures, yes, the bull does possess mechanisms to direct it's energy. If it didn't possess those mechanisms it wouldn't exhibit said energy.

It's kind of funny though, the mechanism that guides the energy is also constructed by energy guided by the same mechanism in other cells. So it is impossible to derive that first mechanism by naturalistic means.

I'm not well versed enough in the field of quantum mechanics to address this adequately; but, considering it's delving off in to cosmology, I don't see how it's particularly relevant to evolution.

Blast you Statler for uncovering the lies of science. Our secret conspiracy to defraud the world and lead everyone to Satan has been uncovered by your brilliant research. Quick everyone lets get back into our lizard bodies and return in our spaceship to Alpha Centuri, where we came from.

I thought I was among my fellow crab people! hock: For shame...

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I don't think yuou understood what I was saying. Natural selection is not a mechanism that can convert energy into a usable form by organisms. These mechanisms are the photosynthetic system and the ATP Pump amongst several others. The only problem is, these mechanisms are constructed using energy that has already been converted by the same mechanisms in other cells. The ATP Pump is constructed using the energy from, you guessed it, other ATP Pumps. So you can apply all the raw energy you like to the system, it's not going to do any good without these mechanisms already in place, but you can't get these mechanisms in place without these mechanisms in place. Like I said, raw energy only increases entropy, so the "well it's an open system" argument doesn't work.

On a side note, it's kind of funny you reference South Park considering its creaors (Paker and Stone) in their own words "F***ing hate Atheists" lol.

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Ok, I am not replying to every point in every poster's response. There are way too many, and not enough hours in the day. Does anyone have any one particular point they want addressed? If not, then I will just pick one or two from each post and I will address them. Seems fair to me.

Why do you continue to believe that the universe is only 6000 years old, which flies in the face of insurmountable scientific evidence in a huge range of disciplines that say this is a false hypothesis.

Huge range of disciplines huh? I hope you are not making the mistake of mixing up operational science with origins science, sounds like you are though. The universe doesn't come with an "I am xxxxx years old" tag, so of course the evidence requires interpretation. So is there a serious issue you want addressed or are you just "preaching" with loaded questions?

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Whiner. It's easy for you to reply to one poster, it takes way more time for me to reply to ten different posters. If I was truly trying to avoid any particular topics why would I leave it up to you to decide what I respond to? If you want me to, I can respond to your misunderstandings about information theory, or I can respond to some other point you brought up, but I am not going through your post line by line, just like I am not going through the other eight responses I received today line by line. Give me a break. So you can either choose which argument is best for me to respond to, or I will just choose one to respond to.

In all fairness Statler, you have dodged many of my posts before this point. So I can hardly be blamed for suspecting the same here.

That being said, I was a little tired last night, so I apologise for being short with you.

I'd like you to address the responses to your claims about the mechanisms of evoloution and increases in information which you have asserted are false.

Cheers

Sam

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Okie dokie, not a problem, I apologize for being short as well. I will address the Information issue along with Mitochondrial Eve for DarkestAngel when I get some free time because they are going to take a bit more time to address. Have a good one.