(October 21, 2015 at 6:39 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(October 21, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: Only appears to be harmful? Who decides whether one's pain is an illusion? And it's not "restorative justice" if too many people are going to be ultimately punished at the end.
I may not understand why Hitler did exactly what he did, but that doesn't mean I don't have good reasons to judge that he did a lot of wrong, and doesn't change the fact that someone like him invokes a feeling of revolt and disgust at him due to what I deem unethical acts against others.
In themselves pain and pleasure serve poorly a moral guides and even then require a higher principle to distinguish between good and bad pleasures and good and bad pain. Other than that your only argument is your incredulity.
Who decides whether they are poor moral guides? That is up to each individual at the end of the day.
And higher principle or not, that doesn't really matter. Even if I knew nothing of God's purpose, again, based on what I know and experience, I can still be justified in my judgement of God. If all I can see is God being a tyrant bully, and all the plethora of evidence is pointing that way for me, then that would be a reasonable judgement for me to make.
If God is hurt by such judgements, then I'm open to hearing his side of the story. But he will have to utter something. He can't keep being severely shy forever.