RE: Forum theists: when you have a moment, please...
October 22, 2015 at 1:15 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2015 at 1:17 pm by Crossless2.0.)
(October 21, 2015 at 10:45 pm)Godschild Wrote:(October 21, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: And I've seen nothing from you that would make me believe that you ever even attempt to view the Bible outside its own self-referential loop. Circular reasoning and unsupported assertions are all you appear to have. People who view everything from inside the loop and people who don't will inevitably have different ideas about what "understanding the Bible" means.
What exactly am I to look at outside a book that is based on a spiritual relationship with God, it's not intended to be a complete book of history nor science, it actually opposes some of what we understand in the physical world, it's a book about how God planed and plans to deal with mankind.
GC
You basically just made my point for me. Someone who is convinced that the Bible is "based on a spiritual relationship with God" and his plans (more mere assertions from inside the loop) and is firmly locked into that view will never see any reason to read the book as an artifact of bronze- and iron-age people of a certain region. For you, it is (must be) your god's eternal word, embarrassing factual errors and all. So discussing with you, for example, the evolving views on Jesus Christ as found in the NT is pointless, since you are not inclined to even recognize that such was the case. The Gospels just get conflated in your reading: they're all true and just express the truth through different narrative means. The same with Paul. Etc., etc.
You will always reach an impasse with people who aren't already on the same page as you and who recognize your scriptural "truth" claims for what they are: the results of circular reasoning.
