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Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
(October 22, 2015 at 2:42 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(October 22, 2015 at 1:34 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: so even if he did have a vision of jesus how does that make this son of man God?!
Because he was able to approach God freely, which mere men cannot do, and he was promised an everlasting kingdom.

Quote:If jesus' father was really GOD and NOT from the seed of David then jesus cannot be the Messiah because the Messiah  of prophesy was promised to be from the family line of David . If  jesus was God and if Jesus' father was actually God then not only did Jesus LIE when he said that he was a descendent of David but he is also NOT the Messiah . he is just a liar and God incarnate ....  so which is he because Jesus cannot be both
See Isaiah 9 in the post above. Today's jews don't like it, but the prophecies showed that the messiah would be divine. So, how do you have a messiah who is both divine, and a human descended from David? How about - 1 parent was god, the OTHER parent was a human descended from David. you seem to forget that people have two parents.

Quote:jesus made a detailed effort at showing how he was a decendent of David why did he do this if that was just a deception and in fact his father was God? why did he lie about his lineage to try and trick people into thinking he was the Messiah of scripture?
Jesus didn't, Matthew and Luke did, and they did so because the Davidic lineage was an important part of the prophecies.
Quote:dont you see this is the reason why the Jews cannot accept Jesus as the Messiah because of the claim that his father is God , the Messiah was to be a descendent of David . you christians claim that Jesus is a descendent of God not David or that is what you Christians are claiming so how can they accept him as the Messiah when it completely goes against scripture ?
Again, see Isaiah 9 and other messianic prophecies. The messiah was to be BOTH divine and a descendant of David.

so you are claiming that Marys lineage was from david the lineage he claimed to be connected to was maternal not paternal ?
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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Re: - by John V - October 20, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: - by John V - October 20, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: - by John V - October 21, 2015 at 9:14 pm
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 22, 2015 at 9:46 am
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 22, 2015 at 11:56 am
. - by John V - October 22, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: - by John V - October 22, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ? - by jenny1972 - October 22, 2015 at 3:41 pm
. - by John V - October 22, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 22, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: - by John V - October 22, 2015 at 2:33 pm
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 22, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 8:55 am
RE: - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: - by John V - October 27, 2015 at 8:27 am
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 23, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 8:14 am
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 23, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE - by John V - October 26, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Dele - by Hmmm? - October 26, 2015 at 5:37 pm
:•) - by Hmmm? - October 26, 2015 at 6:17 pm

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