(September 27, 2015 at 8:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) Has already been established that there is No evidence that with the physical death everything is over.
2) Has already been established that there is NO evidence that we got the consciousness that we got thanks to previous generation.
3) Has already been established that there is No evidence that God does not exist so everything is possible.
4) In the physical arena the small is attracted to the big so is quite possible that our small consciousness is attracted by a bigger and infinite consciousness.
5) All it is possible.
6) The problem however is how to find out where is the truth and how the system works.
7) Science is all about finding out the truth.
8) Nobody invent anything.
9) People only discover something.
10) What we discover today is most probably already been discovered in far away more evolved planets in far away solar systems and what we will discover tomorrow is something likely already been discovered in other places so the knowledge is everywhere and the best way to discover more knowledge is to keep our awareness open to all possibilities.
11) Few atheists are open to possibilities while most of them are not.
12) Physically speaking our body works very well if our arteries are not clogged up with impurities so the blood flow freely.
Mentally speaking is the same.
Dogmas or false truth prevent the free flow of what is true.
Our awareness must be open to all possibilities.
This is the only way to reach the truth but considering that atheism in general is build on dogmas like
believing that with the physical death is all over and other believes based on no evidence than is clear that the flow of truth will never reach their inner self.
As the heart bring life to all the body also the cosmic awareness bring the truth to the inner self.
There is no need to try to invent anything.
All is already there.
13) All is needed is to allow the flow to run freely that is why a belief like atheism that prevent this flow of truth is unscientific.
I took the liberty of numbering what I believe your points actually are:
1) You are the one making a positive claim here, you need to provide the evidence for your claim. Not believing in an afterlife is simply the default position when there is no evidence for an afterlife.
2) What is this I don't even. But in general on consciousnes and the mind, it is becoming increasingly more obvious with each passing year that both are emergent properties of the incredibly complicated and complex (they are not the same thing) called the brain, and the even more incredible synaptic and electrical connections created within the brain. So in essence we do get the framework to build our personal consciousness from previous generations. It's evolution, foo'!
3) Go to 1, god is as unproven as the afterlife. And no not everything is possible. For example, there is no way for your life to continue if you were to be exposed to the vacuum of space.
4) Under gravity the big is also attracted to the small, just not to the same extent. Under the better and more accurate relativity, what is called gravity is simply a curvature in space-time created by physical objects. How this relates to consciousness you don't know, frankly.
5) Look I'm just going to post a funny video here, because there is nothing in this point, nothing.
& the punch-line
6) And the scientific method is by far the best method we have for doing this. Without it we'd be left simply with the kind of nonsense I'm replying to you, or snake-oil salesmen taking financial reward from the fears of superstitious people (otherwise known as religion)
7) More accurately, science is a way of eliminating what is wrong. Very little in science outside of physical phenomena is ruled as definitely true.
8) Some examples of invention: Fire, the Wheel, Painting, Jewelry, Arrow-heads, Axe-heads, Sculpting. And I haven't even left Lascaux yet. Inventions are plentiful, like grains of sand at the shore.
9) What is invention, only discovery? Idiot.
10) Just because somebody else we've never met nor likely ever will, nor have they had an influence on us, has invented something, this doesn't preclude us coming up with that thing being equally inventive. Many things have been invented in two different places in parallel, for example writing or the calculus (Leibnitz was probably slightly ahead of Newton, but they both deserve credit) or even the theory of Evolution.
11) You will have to be specific. All people have blind spots where they are less open to new ideas than they should be. This doesn't validate your non-argument.
12) As Terry Pratchett once wrote (I'm paraphrasing): "It's all well and good having an open mind, once it's not so open that your brain will fall out". That is what you are asking us to do.
13) Atheism is not a belief, it is the acceptance of the fact that without evidence for any god non-belief is the correct position. And "the flow to run freely" what does that mean? It's almost as if you just got this post straight from the postmodernism generator.
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