Evidence God Exists

[theVOID]

As I said on another post, Good things can happen to unbelievers, and bad things can happen to Christians. This does not disprove the existence of God, or the power of prayer.

It shows that it is of no consequence.

You pointed to the 9/11 disaster to demonstrate that prayer doesn't work, since there must've been many Christians among those who died. But you're failing to acknowledge that while many people died, many others also got away. And no, I don't believe everyone that got out did so because they prayed. But God answered those who did pray. And others, including non-believers, got out because their time on this earth wasn't up.

And you're saying that nobody who prayed died then? Either that or your God's answer was "See you after your flesh finishes burning"

But seriously, what do you have in support of prayer having any impact on the situation other than your bare assertion that it happened? Praying takes time, it's more likely that the wasted time squandered their window of opportunity rather than it increasing their survivability.

I can tell you that some 12 members from one church in New Jersey who were supposed to be at the World Trade Center on the morning of 9/11 never made it for one reason or another. Some were out sick, others didn't make it because of car trouble, etc. God has many ways of saving and protecting his people.

So here's how it breaks down:

Thousands of people got out of the WTC because they prayed.

Bare assertion fallacy.

They got out because they walked/ran/climbed out of the building.

Others were protected by God, because he didn't allow them to even get to the towers that morning.

Bare assertion fallacy.

They didn't go for sickness and laziness primarily, the number of people absent from the building was less than on an average day.

Of the believers that died, some, as you put it, may have not been true Christians.

No true Scotsman fallacy.

Not jut Christians survived either, and anyone who is not a Christian is certainly not a "true Christian".

Others may have been true Christians, but prayed without faith. Even if a person is a good Christian, praying without faith will yield no results.

Some of them may have been eating chocolate at the time and the spirit of meat-pies was angry at this fact and smited them.

Did you notice that both of our arguments are equally supported? I love refutation by parallel. It' so easy when the opposition is pulling arguments out of their asses.

And of course there's the many believers who didn't take time to pray as they were too horrified.

And there were many who had been eating meat pies that day and were saved by the spirit of meat-pies.

But seriously, Your god created a universe with the full knowledge that this situation would happen, then created people who would be in this situation and would be too terrified to do the required to save them. Your god is less cool than Boy George.

I'm assuming that some atheists and unbelievers got out safely as well, but that's because their time on this earth wasn't up. The algorithm of God's work is very complex, and he sometimes uses unbelievers for his own reasons and purposes.

I'm assuming that you're brainwashed and not just retarded. The algorithm of God's work is very complex and he sometimes creates people only to have them brainwashed to demonstrate to the rest of us what an argument looks like when it is created by someone who has absolutely no interest in checking it's validity.

See, once again my argument has precisely the same level of justification as yours, that being ZERO.

Being a Christian does not put you in some sort of untouchable club. It's having true faith that will keep you protected. This is God's promise. However, if God feels that your time on this earth is up, then your time on this earth is up.

True faith will protect you because it was promised until the cosmic wizard decides otherwise? that's nice.

The seatbelts and breaks in your car will protect you from crashes and that is my promise until at some point in time where I can change my mind without offering justification. I decided the time on your breaks was up, sorry!