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Sin & Forgiveness
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RE: Sin & Forgiveness
(October 25, 2015 at 10:19 am)miaharun Wrote: Very well detailed indeed. Yes you are very correct sir. However Karma is not the very same concepts like forgiveness. Very simply one does an action and there is a reaction.
Of course it isn't the same...if it were the same it would be called forgiveneness, not karma.  Similarly, if karma were cause and effect it would be called cause and effect....not karma.  Nevertheless, both the christian concept of forgiveness and the buddhist concept of karma flirt with those same portions of our psyche.

Quote:Reaction depends on the actions if its good or bad.
This is not cause and effect.  There is no "good" or "bad" in cause and effect.  

Quote:There is no escape and there shouldn't be.
A moral normative statement.  Why shouldn't there be..and who's escaping?   It's this very same reason that christians imagine a divine judge with authority over redemption.  He catches the ones we don't...there is no escape, and there shouldn't be.

Quote:Rhythm what are your thoughts on as to why some people suffer and some don't? Why are some born into poverty and and some in mansions. Who or what decides that as none of us ask anyone to be brought into this world.As we develop, All of us like to have a happy and prosperous life.
The distribution of resources on this planet (and the populations leveraging them) are now and have always been uneven.  The means available to reduce, minimize, or nullify suffering are, like the resources upon which they depend, unevenly distributed....and, lastly, people's emotional response to their circumstances is as wide and varied as we are.  No one decided any of this, we all make do with what we have available in order to pursue our goals and...sadly, what we have available isn't always enough?

Or, you know...a magical moral normative force did it.........?
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Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 25, 2015 at 8:02 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 8:55 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 25, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 25, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 25, 2015 at 11:27 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:04 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:41 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:59 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Cecelia - October 26, 2015 at 2:12 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:24 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 2:57 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:59 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:01 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:45 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:08 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 5:19 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:31 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 5:33 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:56 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:05 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:10 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:19 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 26, 2015 at 7:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by vorlon13 - October 26, 2015 at 9:58 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 11:00 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Crossless1 - October 26, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by downbeatplumb - November 15, 2015 at 6:04 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 5:06 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 5:34 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Angrboda - November 14, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Longhorn - November 14, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 6:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 8:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 8:59 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 9:26 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 27, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 10:02 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by dyresand - October 27, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:22 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by ApeNotKillApe - October 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Longhorn - November 15, 2015 at 6:55 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 1:14 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 15, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 7:22 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:27 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by lisah - November 15, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:39 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 10:50 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - November 15, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 15, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 4:04 am

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