(October 25, 2015 at 6:49 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(October 25, 2015 at 1:49 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: The Taliban-esque "One concerns the worth of secularism in a world where Christianity is true" is what I would probably list as "clue #1" on that end.
Such a world exists only in their minds.
But that's exactly the problem. It exists in all of their minds.
And as such, whenever they start to develop political clout (particularly in a democracy), they see no fault in that proposition. If Christianity is true (or Islam, etc.; take your pick), becomes Since Christianity is true... and then, to them, it is immoral not to apply its principles to others, even if the others don't understand why it's "necessary" to apply those regulations to their lives.
It is the entire basis of the Moral Majority movement that sprung up out of the Evangelicals in the Reagan years through the late 90s, and which continues to this day. We keep saying "the Justices would not allow it", forgetting that if the fundies can elect a radical into the Oval Office, he would happily stack the Supreme Court with Justices who are as religious-fanatic as Thomas and Scalia, ones who'd be glad to give a wink and a nod to theocracy in America.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
