RE: Sin & Forgiveness
October 26, 2015 at 1:41 am
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2015 at 1:43 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 26, 2015 at 1:24 am)miaharun Wrote: See Rhythm, "I hope you aren't counting on karma to purify your souls of misdeeds" you fail to see the analogy of karma. You will never be purified for what you have done. I never count on karma. I just know that if I do bad deeds , bad deeds will follow me and vise versa for good deeds. I don't see why this is more silly than thinking of a higher power to forgive you for a misdeed. The question is why should you be forgiven. This was my question is my first post. Let's say karma is all crap. But why should people get away with shit. Your an atheist I believe. You don't have what right and wrong. Instead you guess. You guess and check with your conscience and then act. But what if your not a good natured person. What if it's in your DNA to do misdeeds. You will guess who cares right ? Or count on what society says. Anyway peace :-) I got some answers for my question. It is always good to have another point of view
Well, what you "know", then...is fantasy. There is no force that causes good or bad, however we define either, to accumulate upon themselves. Evil can and does go unpunished, and good is very often unrewarded. Personally, I don't think karma is any more silly than belief in redemptive higher power...it just isn't any less silly, and, truthfully, isn't all that different in the context of our discussion. Both are means by which the same purported goal is said to be achieved. Essentially, cosmic rendition laws.
Why should people be forgiven? IDK, should they? For what? Why should people get away with shit...again, I don't know whether or not they should, but regardless of that, they do, and similarly regardless of whether or not people should be forgiven, they commonly are. It's a mistake to think that the world operates along the lines of what should be, to you. That, because people shouldn't be forgiven, or because they shouldn't be able to "get away with it" (as two examples)...that they won't. That on the basis of this "should" some force or power convenes and is made manifest. It's a mistake, but it's a mistake common to both the notion of karma offered here, and the notions of higher powers offered elsewhere.
My being an atheist doesn't prevent me from possessing concepts of right and wrong, nor does it make any concept I have a guess. Personally, I rarely check my conscience before I act. If I wasn't a good person, then I wouldn't be a good person. If my DNA predisposed me towards criminality, if it were effective, then I suppose I'd be a criminal. If I were a bad person, or a criminal...I think that the moral ramifications of this, that, and the other thing would be on my mind even less than they are now...which is already damned near never. Mob morality isn't very compelling to me either. My society seems to think that being an atheist, for example, is bad. I probably don't agree with that, eh?
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