(October 25, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Delicate Wrote:I have shown that the Bible itself equivocates about what is required for salvation. If you dismiss this as a fairytale, then you're dismissing the Bibe.(October 25, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Can I get to heaven through good deeds, or am I locked out because I lack faith? Am I going to hell because I'm an atheist, or am I just going to be separated from god? Purgatory? What's hell like? Can practitioners of different religions get into heaven? Can practitioners of different sects of christianity get into heaven? How are sins interpreted by god? If you're saved once, are you always, or does it fade?
I have heard both answers to every one of those questions from christians. Each and every one of them acted as though the opposing answer was simply foolish. So, is this central tenet of christianity, that you labelled "of utmost importance," in another thread just another "peripheral doctrine"?
Which denomination says that good deeds are necessary or sufficient to get you to heaven? Which denomination says practitioners of different religions get into heaven? And which denominations say other sects of Christianity don't get into heaven?
There's 40,000 denominations, atheists love telling me. There's sooo muchhhh doctrinal differences atheists love telling me. Now give me some specifics!
Convince me this is more than an atheist fairytale. I want to believe.
I find it odd that you are ready to concede what you call the "peripheral doctrines" in a book that is supposed to be the inerrant word of god.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.