Sin & Forgiveness
October 26, 2015 at 1:29 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2015 at 1:37 pm by miaharun.)
(October 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Kingpin Wrote:(October 25, 2015 at 9:26 am)miaharun Wrote: Exactly. I just fail to see how human minds work. Is it brainwashing from the start, Is it something to do with DNA or something like a hormone. Some people still believe that things like passing exams is with help from god. And they just believe it just like that. How can you have a relationship with Jesus or god? I have this known person who was a prostitute dealer in his 20s. He married a born again and he converted. The fool now tells that god personally spoke to him and forgave for his past sins. Apparently if you take Jesus into your heart and believe he is the savoir your sins in the past are all forgiven . If all mankind goes through to fantasy it will be utter chaos. Why cant they use their eyes (an organ which developed from the time of bacteria) and just look around. Why are there rich people and poor people, Why do people suffer from cancer , What right does their god have to do all these injustice. and if heaven or wherever its called is paradise why don't they kill themselves and go there without sinning on this planet.
Hello Miaharun,
I find this interesting coming from a practicing Buddhist who believes in Karma. Would it be fair of me to say your response to the question of why there are rich people and poor people suffering is purely because those who are suffering now are being punished from sins in a previous life and those who are prosperous are so because of the good deeds in a past life? Who sets the measuring stick for the good/bad deeds to dole out the appropriate karmic experience for the next life? You believe 'people' are responsible for the atrocities in the world, so why do you blame the Christian God for the atrocities. Did you ever think that Christians also believe it is 'people' that are responsible and not God for the injustices?
Hi Kingpin
It is us , people who sets the measuring stick. We dig our own graves. No one is responsible. Your responsible for your actions , you create your own destiny. At least in your present life. I don't blame any God. I don't believe that there is a creator. I blame the people who have no moral thinking. All people have free will. Yet they are at the mercy of a higher power. Asking for benefits , asking for forgiveness for their own selfish actions etc. there are a lot of good things in all religions. But I blame the people who misuse it for their benefit.
(October 26, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Kingpin Wrote:(October 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm)miaharun Wrote: One who commits murder should realize that their actions were wrong and try to rectify. Serving in prison might help there. No one is going to be happy in prison. Some sort of punishment is viable for a misdeed. Murder is something the divine wrote in a book and your following it. Had the divine wrote something else you would still follow that. Even though murder is in the divine books still there is a chance of forgiveness. I'm sorry but why should God forgive for breaking his own commandment ? Let alone moral thinking.
I think you may be able to answer your own question. When someone wrongs you or your child disobeys you, do you forgive them? Why or why not? Would it depend on the level of atrocity? Why do we forgive our spouse when they wrong us?
A child doesn't know what's right or wrong. Even morally. That's why they go to school. That's why parents bring them up. Teaching them , nurturing them. It's only natural to forgive them for their mistakes. I think what a child does is a mistake instead of a misdeed. Spouse ? Would you forgive if your spouse cheated on you ? Lies, bad words, disobey yes. Of course. We are human. Not perfect.
"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path" - Gautama Buddha
