(March 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Kyu ..angry atheist indeed! Atheist without a cause perhaps too
Atheist with a cause actually ... my personal crusade is to keep religion out of science & government. Or did you mean without a cause (the way I came to be) in which case it all makes perfect sense (or rather the bollocks I was taught did not).
(March 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I take your point. Indeed, many people think an awful lot of different things. Personally I have a problem with people who believe despite evidence. I think theists owe a debt to those that point out contradictions. I'd disagree about logic. Faith is also very rational, and requires logic. Likewise from the opposing argument illogical statements are made.
Faith is by definition irrational ... as Dawkins puts it it is without evidence and often in spite of it.
(March 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Which point of view are you coming down on though? I'm making a clear logical point I thought? I'm not trashing anything evidential
The very first step you take into belief without evidence is against reason IMO.
Kyu
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