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Sin & Forgiveness
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RE: Sin & Forgiveness
(October 27, 2015 at 9:13 am)miaharun Wrote: Invention is only to your eyes sir. I didn't invent the magic your talking about. Everybody doesn't get raped. Why only some people get raped.
Because those are the people that the rapists...you know...raped.  Or magic, because they deserved it.


Quote:...Out of 7 billion people why only a handful get raped ?
Because there are fewer than 7 billion rapists...and they can't get to all of us?  Or, magic....because that handful deserved it.

Quote:Your very wrong about "satisfy a desire for punishment" . No one will take satisfaction when a girl was raped. Thinking it was her past doings. This is what you need to be cleared of. It is merely to explain as to why it had to happen to that particular girl out of so many people around the world. I, we I don't think anyone is satisfied with that thought that it's a good thing that happened to the victim. I hope you understand that.  
I may be wrong, convince me.  What you've described here is the very definition of satisfaction being taken.  Every time you post, my opinion of your moral practices and beliefs becomes less and less generous.  

Quote:I tend to assume that kicking a dog will be a bad deed in your books. It's not about how many dogs you'd have to kick to achieve something. What ever you do , any action will have a reaction.
And assuming that's true...there's a number "x" of dogs I'd have to kick to get myself raped, or starved, or impoverished, or infected.  I'm sure karma has others tools..but these are those tools you've deigned to mention......you see justice in this, somewhere, lol.

I'm just looking for specifics.

Please, stop conflating cause and effect with karma.  They are not the same thing, as you've described them.  If you would like to insist that cause and effect exists be my guest, but if you insist that karma exists you will have to address karma...not cause and effect.  Do you understand this?  As an example, if I were to tell you that the god Aten exists...and then point at the sun as evidence - you'd probably realize how inept this type of claim actually is.  Point of fact, we can often see the glaring inconsistencies of others beliefs even past or through the glaring inconsistencies of our own, which we do not see.  As was the case in your OP, and as has been the case since, with every subsequent post.

You say you don;t understand their beliefs. I think you do. I think you do, and I've been watching you defend your own beliefs along that periphery in the same manner and for the same reasons that they defend theirs. It would be massively amusing (to me), if you managed to do all of this - without realizing that. Any christian could tell you, as you've told me...when faced with what they might see as uncomfortable consequences of belief (say, a serial killer keeps confessing/and or asking for forgiveness) - that this...is not...the purpose...of that belief.
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Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 7:22 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 25, 2015 at 8:02 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 8:55 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 25, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 25, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 25, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 25, 2015 at 11:27 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 25, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:04 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:41 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:59 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Cecelia - October 26, 2015 at 2:12 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:24 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 2:57 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:59 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:01 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:45 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:08 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 5:19 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:31 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 5:33 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 5:56 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:05 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:10 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:19 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 6:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 6:44 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Aoi Magi - October 26, 2015 at 7:36 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by vorlon13 - October 26, 2015 at 9:58 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 11:00 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Crossless1 - October 26, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - October 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 26, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Kingpin - October 26, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by downbeatplumb - November 15, 2015 at 6:04 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 26, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 5:06 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 5:34 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Angrboda - November 14, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Longhorn - November 14, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 27, 2015 at 6:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 8:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 8:59 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 9:26 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 27, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 10:02 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by dyresand - October 27, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - October 28, 2015 at 4:22 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - October 27, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by ApeNotKillApe - October 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Catholic_Lady - November 14, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Longhorn - November 15, 2015 at 6:55 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 1:14 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 15, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 7:22 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:27 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by lisah - November 15, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:34 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 9:39 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 10:50 am
Sin & Forgiveness - by miaharun - November 15, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Drich - November 15, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 15, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Sin & Forgiveness - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 4:04 am

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