(October 27, 2015 at 11:06 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(October 27, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Delicate Wrote: Oh don't just assert that. Substantiate it!
Again, I am only in the position to respond to theists claims that a god exists.
My only assertion is that demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic have not been presented. And that is all that I need to defend.
Until you assert that you have demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic for your god, I have no need to substantiate anything.
If you want to open another thread and present your evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic to support your god claim, I will be more than glad to substantiate my assertion that it does not meet that criteria.
You don't quite seem to grasp basic logic, skepticism, what constitutes good evidence, where the burden of proof lies, and probably more.
For now, I am out of here for the night.
That may be all you need to defend, but you're certainly not doing a good job of defending it.
You haven't substantiated the claim or provide any specifics, which is needed for a successful defense. Have people attempted to provide you demonstrable evidence in the past and you've found problems with their demonstrations? What did they try to demonstrate and how did it fail? This is needed for a successful defense of your claim as well.
In addition, further questions arise from your request for me to present my evidence- before you have even seen my evidence, how can you claim to substantiate your assertion that it doesn't meet your criteria? You haven't even seen the evidence yet! Unless you have a faith-based commitment to atheism that lets you know of its failure before seeing it...
So you have failed to substantiate your claim, and your atheism seems faith-based. Maybe you can take care of that when you wake up tomorrow.
And I haven't even gotten to your unsubstantiated assertion that I don't seem to grasp basic logic, skepticism, etc. What's the evidence for that?
Your case looks very weak, as it would fail to convince even to a dispassionate skeptic.
