RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
October 28, 2015 at 8:55 am
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2015 at 8:58 am by Mudhammam.)
(October 28, 2015 at 8:50 am)Irrational Wrote:I don't think it would necessarily rule out ALL forms of suffering (although the logical problem of evil might require that), but it certainly would negate much of what one reads in the news everyday.(October 28, 2015 at 8:19 am)Nestor Wrote: It doesn't really matter what sophism Delicate or any other theist can cobble together in defense of their omnipotent, omnibenevolent monarch. Such a creature is simply incompatible with observation of the world.
1. If God exists, there would be no unnecessary and excessive suffering in the world.
2. There is unnecessary and excessive in the world.
3. God does not exist.
If both premises are true, the conclusion must follow. The logical deduction of God's attributes guarantees the first premise, and the only justifiable inference one is entitled to make - given the information we possess - obliges one to grant premise two. Therefore, the nonexistence of such a deity is established.
If an omnibenevolent and perfect God exists, there should be no suffering at all. The ultimate good should be achieved by just good without any necessity for evil. If God is perfect, that is.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza